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Is there more? Are the Scriptures still being written?

Posted by truthtalklive on July 7, 2008

On today’s show Stu takes a look back at the show on July 3rd. So we are asking you is there more? Are the scriptures still being written? For more information on July 3rd’s show please visit www.truthtalklive.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/is-it-possible-for-preachers-to-preach-on-evolution/  Leave comments here or call 1-866-34-truth that’s 1-866-348-7884 to join the on air discussion. As always thanks for listening!

 

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6 Responses to “Is there more? Are the Scriptures still being written?”

  1. jAsOn said

    I didn’t get to listen to much of this show, and I know the context is that of Rev. Dowd’s book and premises discussed on July 3, however, whatever place he’s coming from isn’t the only attack being made against the Scriptures today. I posed this on “Is Revival Happening in America Today”, as I was investigating a man named Todd Bentley who was being discussed on that thread. One of the websites (Fresh Fire) with which he is associated, though they did have a previous statement that affirmed inerrancy and the “supreme authority” of the Bible, they seemed to resend that statement by making this claim at the end of their statement of faith.

    “FURTHER REVELATION

    We recognize that God is continually restoring truth and light to His Church. Therefore, we place no limit on further revelation; however, each must be substantiated according to the Scriptures.”

    Though I believe it is the logical outworking of a doctrine of present day prophesy and such (not to be confused with the “prophesy” spoken of with in the context of the “Sovereign Grace denomination by such orthodox men as CJ Mahaney and Wayne Grudem) this is really a denial of the doctrine of inerrency and further revelation has always been regarded as unorthodox in evangelicalism. For something to actually be regarded as revelation, it must be a word from God in the “thus saith the Lord” sense, and ought to be written down and regarded as authoritative as the content of the other 66 books of the OT and NT. Just because the include the phrase, “each must be substantiated according to the Scriptures”, doesn’t nullify the fact that they are promoting the possibility of having the authoritative Words of God added to. This was a qualification all Words that were eventually inscripturated in to the Canon.

    Perhaps this type of thing was discussed on the show. How is it different from what Dowd claimed?

  2. ADB said

    I only heard the last few minutes of the show, but to ask if there is more scripture to be written is a little non-sensical because the Canon of scripture has been considered closed since the works of Cyril of Alexandria and Athanasius in the 4th century. Jason, you and I might differ a little over continuing revelation, or perhaps it’s just semantics. I think that God does still speak to people, and the Holy Spirit does still reveal things to people. Jesus himself said that the Spirit would guide people into the truth and give them what to say when attacked for their faith. We should all hope and pray that our pastors and teachers are enlightened by the Spirit. Obviously, anything that someone thinks is a message from God must not contradict Scripture because God’s not going to contradict himself. All to often the goobers on TV talk about God telling them this and telling them that, and I get skeptical in a hurry.

    I would like to add a comment on what the guest said at the end about preaching the sciptures. It seemed like he was saying that the only legitimate way to preach is to go consecutively through a book of the Bible. That is indeed a time-honored way of organizing your preaching, but it certainly is not the only way. A seminary professor of mine said (tongue in cheek) that there were “three ways of choosing a text: lectio, lectio continuo, or lectio rectio extractio.” In my own preaching I have found a lectionary to be a useful tool, but am currently preaching consecutively through the first half of Romans. What the pastor should avoid is just picking texts “out of thin air” because in doing so he can end up preaching his own favorite passages and doctrines over and over again. To really preach the Bible means to make sure that we spend time in all parts of it- Torah and Prophets, Gospels and Epistles, etc. It also should go without saying that what we preach reflects sound exegesis with serious prayer and reflection.

    My two cents worth,
    The curmudgeonly pastor 🙂

  3. jAsOn said

    ADB,

    I think the distinction is between revelation and illumination if I remember correctly.

    I certainly believe that all Christians are lead by the Spirit, influenced and He uses the Word to teach us the way we should go, but revelation in the form of “thus saith the Lord”, or the contemporary “…God told me…” I think is out of bounds. For someone to claim that he has received additional specific instructions from the Holy Spirit is, in essence, denying the sufficiency of God’s specific revelation, His Word.

    Don’t misunderstand me, I do NOT consider myself a cessationist, at least not in the traditional sense.

  4. ADB said

    I think we agree. There is no further revelation, if by revelation we mean the same sort of revelation that God gave Isaiah, Jeremiah, or Paul, etc.

  5. jAsOn said

    diddo

  6. Ben Maulis said

    Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life…. For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

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