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Is It Ever Ok For a Pastor to Curse?

Posted by truthtalklive on May 30, 2008

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39 Responses to “Is It Ever Ok For a Pastor to Curse?”

  1. Debra Crossland said

    Pastors just like everyone else in the world should not curse, but he is human and tempted and how better to make a fool of a pastor than have him curse, and even worse on a talk show. He can be forgiven just the same and any other sinner that asks.

  2. Jeff42 said

    No. Crude/foul language is never justifiable for the Christian, including the preacher. God calls us to purity. To curse in order to try to reach men is to compromise the faith you are trying to promote, and worse, it is to dishonor the Lord. Pastors are to be examples to the flock in holiness, which as you can see below, includes speech.

    1 Timothy 4:12 12 Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity.

    Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

    Ephesians 5:3-6 But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. 4 Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.

  3. John said

    As in, lay curses upon others? Or like, curse if he accidentally hits his thumb with a hammer?

  4. I didn’t hear this show on the air, but kinda think it’s almost like asking, “is it okay for pastors to go to the nudey bar?”
    I don’t know how it could ever be okay…
    mark jr.

  5. Zerxil said

    John I Think it should have been cuss, so as not to confuse you. Stu was talking about a friend of his that was a pastor that cussed out satin.. and callers call in. And I thought the people on here were “different”.

  6. Zerxil said

    I think Obamas church’s guest paster cursed in the pulpit & a christen talk show played it on the air today, lol. That is the problem with not checking what you play, or post for that matter.

  7. jAsOn said

    I think we need to make a distinction between culturally “crude” word and words of “cursing”.

    There are several words that are considered culturally crude in America but that are not actually curse words unless employed in a particular fashion, don’t you think we should make that sort of distinction? Paul used the Greek equivalent of crude American words when he spoke, how do we rectify that with an absolute moratorium on crude American cultural words?

  8. Maz said

    #3 I was wondering that myself.
    #4 Yes, I quite agree. Stupid question.

  9. Chris C. said

    I once went to a Young Life camp and the paster there was a failry conservative fellow as it came to theology. He preached the gospel the story of salvation, but also to relate to many of the high school aged kids he told stories and jokes etc. He had a very effective delivery and I distinctly remember him using the “d” word a few times. I think it endeared him to people of our generation, made them take what he had to say more seriously because he seemed to be talking “with them” not “at them”. Im not trying to say what’s “okay” for pastors to do as far as a Christian legal code is concerned, but that was my experience with it.

    I was very naive growing up in the church. If I had known that most pastors sin just like the rest of the people in their churches I might have wasted less time in the pews than I did.

  10. randy said

    i useedd to be one of the most fithy talking people ever untile i came to the lord and prayed thru to the Holy Ghost sense that time i have yet to speak filthy and i havee smashed my fingers more than once the Word of the Lord teaches us that old things are past away and behold all things have become new the things i used to do i do no more the places i used to go i dont go there any more i dont dress the way i used to dress my friends have also changed not to say that i dont have friends that are not liveing for the Lord what i am trying to say is my whole outlook on life is changed aditude and all the way i see people now is totally different now i have a God fearing love towards all man kind do i agree with the things that are ungodly that people do No! Jesus said that we were the light of the world thus we if we are the sons and daughters of God we are to let our light so shine before men God Blesss Youall! Good Bye!

  11. randy said

    P.S no it is not ok for a pastor to curse i have been serveing the Lord for 21 years now and ive yet to curse!

  12. Jeff42 said

    Chris,

    I am sorry that you did not have better pastoral examples when you were growing up. In spite of what you have experienced, there are many godly pastors who take the call to purity seriously and are fine examples for the flock. They have experienced the grace of God in Jesus Christ and their heart’s desire is to see others experience that same grace. I’m not saying that there are any perfect pastors out there, but most of the ones that I have known take their calling seriously and seek to be godly examples for the flock. There are a few bad apples (hypocrites) out there as well, but don’t let them color your opinion of Christ. Christ is who he claimed to be – the Son of God, the God-man – and he is coming again. I urge you, be reconciled to God through Jesus Christ His Son.

    2 Cor. 5:17-21
    Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. [18] All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; [19] that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. [20] Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. [21] For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

  13. Maz said

    Chris: One thing Christians shouldn’t do is try to be like the world to win the world. We are supposed to be different, and we can still be relevant to the youth without adopting their sware words. Jesus didn’t need to do it, He was Himself, but being Himself ofcourse meant He was projecting the truth about God and His nature. How can we project Gods nature if we try being like the world?

  14. Zerxil said

    9) “I was very naive growing up in the church. If I had known that most pastors sin just like the rest of the people in their churches I might have wasted less time in the pews than I did.” so if your pastor cursed in church you would have left sooner.

  15. Alex said

    Is this really a legit question? I mean, seriously, we talk about evolution, gay rights, abortion, and other important subjects. This seems a little bit… trivial, at best.

  16. F. L. A. said

    Perhaps Stu was having a bad day, Alex. It happens from time to time.

  17. Maz said

    Alex: You’re right, it is.

  18. Tim said

    I don’t think we should be asking “is it okay for pastors to curse?” We should be asking, “Why is there even such a thing as ‘bad’ words?”

    I think the fact that in our language there are words that when sounded out a certain way are considered “bad” is pretty superstitious.

    We aren’t a slave to words– words are OUR slaves.

    It’s clear in the bible it doesn’t really matter what words we say, but how we say it:

    “Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.”

  19. Jeff42 said

    Tim,

    Are you saying that you don’t believe that certain words are profane? You say, “it doesn’t really matter what words we say, but how we say it.” I don’t think that Eph. 4:29 backs that interpretation. Obviously Paul believed that certain words were “corrupt” in themselves. A more literal translation of the Greek would be, “Let no corrupt word go out of your mouth.”

    My parents sure had no problem pointing out corrupt words when I was growing up! πŸ™‚

  20. soapNmouth said

    Here are some words that depending on context would be considered “curse” words:

    b*t*h(female dog)
    dam(n)
    h e “double hockey sticks” πŸ˜‰
    pi*seth, yes it is in the KJV
    jacka*s
    a*s

    Now, if an elder ever uses the standard “curse” words that are not kosher to spell out on here nor to say in front of your mother, then he is obviously going against Scripture. I believe culture, context, and censorship should come into play when considering some words. Other words are “curse” words around the world. But there are some words that are considered “curse” words in American English, yet are not in U.K.English.

    “He probably heard it from his father.” – scene from ‘A Christmas Story’ with the infamous soap for the slippery tongue πŸ™‚

  21. John said

    Once upon a time, there used to be a difference between “cuss words” and “swear words”[smile]. Does anyone else know it?

  22. Zerxil said

    no the difference is Swear or Cuss words & Curse as in cause harm literately with words.

  23. jAsOn said

    From the Online Etymology Dictionary

    Cuss: “1775, Amer.Eng. dialectal, “troublesome person or animal,” an alteration of curse. Verb meaning “to say bad words” is first recorded 1815.”

  24. Maz said

    Surely everyone knows when someone is actually swearing? I mean, you don’t question someone if they use a swear word. You usually know if someone is doing it in a bad way or using a word like when you are talking about a female dog or when you are speaking of a wall which holds back tons of water? Am I being too simple here?

  25. Zerxil said

    Maz not simple enough. No, it is worse then sin to cause someone to stumble in their walk with Christ. What is pi*seth? You forgot dip s**t. John was playing around with the whole witch curse thing, at least I thought he was. Here is a little more controversial topic. Is It Ever Ok For a Pastor to Curse from the pulpit? If yes when? If no, than he shouldn’t any other time either. Just a thought.

  26. John said

    No,I was not playing.
    Perhaps hypothetical Pastor could curse as so long as he was saying a quote?

  27. jAsOn said

    what about imprecatory psalms?

  28. Zerxil said

    27 Your paster probably shouldn’t prey them, but I couldn’t say not. Sorry John, I misspoke. Imprecatory prayer is actualy John type cursing.

  29. jAsOn said

    I never said that my pastor prays them.

  30. Maz said

    Zerxil: Yes, I would say swearing is sin, it sure doesn’t please God.

    John: I wouldn’t even use a swear word in a quote, I couldn’t say it, and a Pastor deffinitey shouldn’t in Gods House. I would probably spell it out but there are even some I wouldn’t do that!

  31. Jason said

    If its sinning, then that person, pastor or not, should not curse. If its not sinning then I don’t see why a person pastor or not, should be prohibited outright from cursing. So I think it is more of a question of “What is it?” I would be careful to not be too quick to judge someone purporting to be a Christian using questionable language. All the scripture quoted thus far relates to us: the individual, or rather “how should I act?” Let our conduct be right, and lets not pretend to be God, by asserting our knowledge of God’s relationships to other believers as superior to His.

  32. Maz said

    If anyone, and particularly Pastors, use, as the KJV calls it ‘foul communication’, then it is sin because the scriptures say we shouldn’t use it. To do so is going against what God has said. If a Pastor in my Church used it without any conviction it was wrong, I would not attend that Church any more. Something must be wrong with his consciousness of what is sinful. I know, that if I do something wrong, I know about it. I know what is right and what is wrong. As Christians we should all have that built in God conscience within us to tell us when something is sin or not. It is called conviction.

  33. Tim said

    #29 — I don’t know. Can words themselves be “corrupt?” For me it’s more of the meaning we give those words. I think for every person there are different words that we would consider “bad.”

    I may be completely wrong, I’m still working this out for myself, but I just have a hard time believing there are particular words that are “bad” to say. I don’t cuss in particular, just because I know other people believe it to be wrong, but I don’t have a problem as much with bad words as I do with the message. If that makes any sense. πŸ™‚

  34. Zerxil said

    If a pastor is foul mouthed, as in foul words spew forth from his mouth he just might not be Christian. I thought the Bible stated ‘do nothing with even the look of ungodly behavior’ or some such.

  35. Zerxil said

    Doing something ‘bad’ might not be a sin. It might even be right. But cussing is not right even if its not ‘sin’.

  36. Maz said

    Zerxil: In what way could something that is bad not be sin?

  37. jAsOn said

    That would be the difference between moras and ethos; between sins against the Creator and offenses against the cultural norm (taboos)

  38. randy said

    praise the Lord folks the bottom line is if a person professes to be a Christian! (child of God) and exspecially a pastor is he not suposed to be Crist like? not to mention that brother paul admonished young brother timothy to be an example of the believers the bible also tells us that we are to obey them that have the rule over you and submit yourselves;for they watch for your souls. as they must give account, if the speach of the pastor does not Glorify God then it is very wrong, To many times people play on Grace or if you will (unmerited favor) but we need to go on and study to show oursevles approved unto God a workman that needeth not to be ashamed. the word Grace also means and i parafrase the influence of God in a man or individuals life if God the Lord Jesus Christ is influenceing a persons life do you think he would do it contrary to his word? i think not! everything that is done or said should Glorify the Lord we are his workmanship not He ours. shall we continue in sin that Grace may abound? God forebid that we live any longer there in. God Bless you all!

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